Walt Disney World FastPass+ Strategy Update

by on May 4, 2016 25 Comments

Filed under: Basics, FastPass+, Trip Planning, Uncategorized, Walt Disney World (FL)

Kiosks? We don't need no stinkin' kiosks!

Kiosks? We don’t need no stinkin’ kiosks!

Remember a couple of months ago when we released a three part series on Disney’s FastPass+ service at Walt Disney Worldhow to use it, the best strategy for getting the most out of it, and then hacks and tips to make it even better? Well, Disney had to go and enhance the service, rendering some of our advice outdated. Well, consider it outdated no more. Read on to find out how these changes impact the process of making your picks, and the strategy to using the FastPass+ system!

Right off the bat, let me assuage any concerns that you may have that everything you thought you knew is wrong — there haven’t been that many changes, most things still work largely as they did or the change is intuitive enough that you’ll figure it out just fine. If you knew how to make a FastPass+ reservation before, you’re still going to know how to do that. Step back from the ledge.

With that said, there have been a couple of fairly significant changes to what the system will allow you to do, and this additional flexibility has the potential to alter your strategy significantly.  Len discussed the changes at length on the April 20, 2016 edition of the WDW Today podcast and Rikki had a great post outlining the changes, so you might want to check those out before going forward if you haven’t already. I’ll wait.

OK, ready? That was quick.  Anyway, here’s a deeper dive into each of these changes, and how it might impact your scheduling and strategy:

Greater Control Over FastPass+ Reservation Times

 

The Change:

 

It used to be that when you made your FastPass+ reservations, Disney would provide you with 4 options including your picks at various times. If those times were not acceptable to you, you would take the option closest to what you wanted and then manually go in and tweak the FastPass+ reservations to your liking. Now, you are presented with a listing of available times for each selection before you make your pick and can select times that best match your schedule at the outset.

 

Why It Matters:

 

The primary benefit here is that it affords you more flexibility in how you plan your days, and more flexibility is always better for those that know how to use the system.

Make Less Than 3 FastPass+ Reservations

 

Kilimanjaro Safari

Only need a FastPass for the Safari at Animal Kingdom? Now you can just book that one if you’d like! (Photo © Disney)

The Change:

 

Since FastPass+ launched, the system would require you to make 3 picks, and then you had to use (or manually cancel) all 3 of those picks before it would permit you to get more. Now, you are free to select one, two, or three initial picks — Disney no longer compels you to make FastPass+ reservations you might not need or want.

 

Why It Matters:

 

Again, this is another thing that provides you with more control and flexibility in scheduling your day. Those extra, unwanted FastPasses inhibit your ability to get more FastPasses for things that you’ve already ridden, that are in other tiers, or that are in other parks.

 

Make Rolling FastPass+ Reservations on Your Phone For Any Park

 

The Change:

 

In the past, you started out with three FastPass+ reservations, and after you used those, you could get more on a rolling basis by going to an in-park kiosk and making another reservation for an attraction within that park. Now, you can make those additional FastPass+ reservations from your phone without going to a kiosk and you can make them in any park and are no longer limited to the park you’re in.

 

Why It Matters:

 

The ability to make the reservation from your phone is a nice iterative change that is more about convenience than anything else. Frankly, with the My Disney Experience app obviously capable of making and changing selections, it struck me as odd that Disney would force you to go to a kiosk to make more. If those kiosks were located in a gift shop, sure, I would get why Disney forced you to do it then, but as it stood, it just seemed like an unnecessary step. Now that this change has been implemented, it might save you some steps and time waiting in line for a kiosk, but it isn’t going to represent a huge change in how you do things.  

 

The ability to make FastPass+ reservations in other parks, however, is a massive change that can have a huge impact upon your strategy, as discussed in more detail below.

How These Changes Impact Touring Strategy

 

My Disney Experience

If you haven’t already done so, it is time to get on board with the My Disney Experience app.

Individually, most of these changes represent incremental enhancements in convenience and flexibility, but the collective impact is that you have more options in terms of planning out your day, particularly if you’re park hopping. I can hear you all right now asking, “OK, sounds great, but what’s the catch?” Frankly, while it’s still early and it will take some time before we really get to see what sort of consequences this has, I think it’s fair to say that on the whole, these changes are a clear net positive for the educated Walt Disney World traveler (read: you). The primary potential downside that can be anticipated, however, is that day-of FastPasses, particularly for headliner attractions, are likely to be gone sooner than before.

 

Ever hear yourself say, “Well, I had to pick three FastPasses so I grabbed a FastPass for Festival of the Lion King, I guess I’ll go ahead and use it?” By forcing people to take potentially unnecessarily FastPass+ reservations that they then went ahead and used because, you know, it’s something to do with no wait, the old system spread out and more evenly distributed crowds. Moreover, up until recently, the only people that could make day-of FastPass reservations were people that were already in the park. Now, you’re not only competing with the people in your park for add-on FastPasses, you’re also competing with people coming from other parks that can now make reservations from anywhere. Given these changes, it’s pretty easy to imagine that the high demand attractions will be gone earlier than they have been in the past. Here’s a post that Scott did last year with an attraction lineup very similar to that which currently exists showing when you can expect FastPasses to be gone for the various attractions; you can likely expect the times, at least for the headliners, to get earlier.    

 

Sooooo, what does this all mean in terms of your plan for the day? You may recall that I outlined the two basic schools of thought with respect to FastPass+ strategy, which I referred to as the Rope Drop Churn and the Afternoon Hopper. The strategy behind the Rope Drop Churn remains largely unchanged, although I can see an incentive to start your FastPasses even a bit earlier, for the reasons noted above. Moreover, the Afternoon Hopper still remains the best option for those of you that are looking to do a true split day, where you spend the morning in one park, and the latter part of your day in another, particularly if that second park is the Magic Kingdom where there are a large number of attractions that benefit from FastPass.

 

Not everyone falls neatly into these two categories, however, and these new rules open up some options to you. Also, it gives me the opportunity to give fun names to some touring strategies, so there’s that. Here goes:   

 

The Bounce Out

 

Tigger

Surprisingly, this strategy has nothing to do with Tigger

Let’s say you’re an experienced traveler who would like to pay a quick visit to Animal Kingdom purely to hit the two headliners (Kilimanjaro Safari and Expedition Everest) before heading to Magic Kingdom to spend the bulk of your day. If you wanted to use FastPass+, you’d probably be using a FastPass for those two and one other random attraction at 9, 10 and 11, such that the earliest you could make another reservation would be shortly after 11 if you were still in the park and used your third FastPass, or noon (when it expired) if you had already left.  

 

With this new system, however, you could get a single FastPass+ reservation for the Safari starting at 9. Show up, hit Everest using the single rider line (or even the regular line if you’re there right at rope drop), go over and do the Safari, and you’re on your way and there’s nothing restricting your ability to get another FastPass+ reservation at the Magic Kingdom. What’s more, as discussed above, you can make that next FastPass+ reservation right then, even though you’re not at the Magic Kingdom!

 

Note: it bears mention that this is probably a better fit for someone wanting to do TWO attractions at the first park rather than a single attraction. If there is only one attraction at the morning park before moving on, or only one that really benefits from FastPass, you’re better off being there when the park opens, doing that attraction immediately, and then taking advantage of three advance FastPass+ reservations at the later park, as you would for the Afternoon Hopper.

 

The Continuous Loop

 

This could also come in handy for those that like to ride their favorite attractions multiple times. If your goal for the day is to ride Tower of Terror as many times as possible to the exclusion of everything else, you can get one early, use it, and then immediately get another. With respect to day-of FastPass+ reservations, the earlier in the day you make your reservation, the better the selection and the earlier the time is going to be, so the ability to do this at 9:30 rather than 11:30 gives you a real advantage.  

 

The “Rest in Peace”

 

We’re big advocates of taking a break in the middle of the day, especially when we’re park hopping, but the downside of it is that by the time you get back in the park, the headliner attractions have probably distributed all of their FastPasses for the day and unless you saved your three daily FastPasses for the evening, you have a lot of standby rides in your future.  No more — now, rather than stressing about evening wait times, you can make another reservation to coincide with your return to the parks, and it makes no difference which park you’re in or if you remain in a park at all. If you know you’re coming back (or even think you might come back), go ahead and make that additional reservation as soon as you have the opportunity to maximize your selection.

 

Remember…

 

No matter which strategy you’re employing, it’s important to keep in mind that a FastPass is considered “used” once you’ve passed the Mickey-head touchpoints (the second one if you’re in a line with more than one) — you don’t have to wait until you’ve actually experienced the attraction.  Accordingly, as soon as you’re past that point, go ahead and hop onto the My Disney Experience app and start making your next selection in the brief (and occasionally not so brief) period of time before you board.  Particularly for attractions with preshows, there can be a fairly significant chunk of time between the time you pass that last touchpoint and the time you actually get off the attraction — Soarin’ and Test Track both spring immediately to mind — and that extra 20 minutes can have a big impact upon your return time for other FastPass+ reservations.

 

Finally, it’s worth underscoring that taking advantage of all of these hybrid strategies still envisions you showing up at the parks at or near park opening. No matter how you spin it, the later in the day you try to make a day-of FastPass+ reservation, the less availability there is going to be, and the later your reservation is going to be. If you’re going to be showing up later, your best strategy is likely going to be to go the traditional route of scheduling your three reservations to coincide with your arrival time and then getting more as they become available.

 

[Note: this article has been edited to remove a discussion of using these changes as a way to work around tiering, as reflected in the comments.]

 

As always, we love to hear about your experiences.  Anyone out there use these or any other strategies that take advantage of these new rules?  Got any better names than the ones I came up with?  Let us know in the comments!

 

Posted on May 4, 2016

25 Responses to “Walt Disney World FastPass+ Strategy Update”

  • Does the rolling Fastpass still not become available until you burn through all 3? Any chance it becomes available after you burn through your first one?

    • by James Rosemergy on May 4, 2016, at 7:50 am EDT

      Edited: see Steve’s post below

      • by Sandra from Germany on May 4, 2016, at 8:44 am EDT

        Do you know what happens, when I’m in the park with FPP for Soarin and Spaceship earth. I went on Soarin and than see, that the wait for Spaceship earth is low. Could I cancel the first FP and immediate book a second FP for Test Track, because I droped the second pre booked FP?

    • You cannot book a second tier 1 attraction until you use three Fastpasses, even if you book them one at a time. One slight variation is that you can select a tier 1 attraction in a different park as your second or third Fastpass. So you could book Soarin’ in Epcot for 10am. While you are in the Soarin’ queue you can then book Rock’n’Roller and Star Tours at Hollywood Studios.

      • by James Rosemergy on May 4, 2016, at 10:12 am EDT

        Thank you for this clarification, Steve. I’ve updated the article accordingly.

      • One other strategy that won’t work is letting the tier 2 attractions expire. If you have a 9am Tier 2, 10am Tier 2, and 11am Tier 1; the system will not let you book a Tier 1 FastPass for noon. The 9am and 10am FastPass will still show in My Disney Experience and you have to modify them before booking your 4th FastPass.

        Expired is not equal to used. 🙁

        • Thanks for the clarification, i was wondering about this.

          We generally book FPs in a row beginning at 9:30am, hoping to start 4+FPs by noon. There’s less choice at Epcot & HS though, because less rides = less FP allotments. With MDE, remember: Refresh is your friend 😉 Smaller party size increases odds as well.

  • by Scott Larson on May 4, 2016, at 7:23 am EDT

    Hi. I am a little confused as far as how to get FPs at different parks. I just tried to get one at AK during the morning (just like the one in the example) and a second at MK. It won’t let me. Does that work only after you have used it / the time has expired?
    Thanks!

    • by James Rosemergy on May 4, 2016, at 7:54 am EDT

      It remains the case that you can’t have active FPs in different parks at the same time. The change is that you can make rolling FP reservations from your phone from anywhere, as opposed to the prior rule where you had to do it from a kiosk and could only reserve it in the park you were physically in at the time.

  • With the Tier system, are you able to book another Tier 1 FPP in the same park without using up 2 from Tier 2? Or can you use FPP on just Test Track and immediately try to book another Tier 1 in Epcot?

  • “Surprisingly, this strategy has nothing to do with Tigger”

    Well played, old man.

  • Getting rolling FP+es via the app is a great change. On April 24th, after I used my three FP+es in the morning at HS, I was able to immediately grab one for the evening at MK… Which was great, since MK turned out to be a CL9 that day!

  • I just got back last week and used this system. I have no previous comparison as my last visit was pre-magicband. However, it worked very well for me. I booked three FP per day via laptop in the old system. Once I arrived I used them as scheduled, and in a few cases moved them up when I finished doing a few things early. In the case of Magic Kingdom I was able to secure two additional FP – one for Jungle Cruise and one for Haunted Mansion – even late in the day (after 2 pm). High demand FP like Seven Dwarves Mine Train and even Town Hall Mickey were gone by 11 am, but some of these lesser ones were easy to get. I also used the system to book in a different park. Starting one day in HS for example with my first three, and then getting another in EPCOT later in the day. Doing this all on my phone while waiting in the FP line or immediately after I exited a FP ride worked very well. The system was glitchy some days – showing availability but no times to select – so be persistent and keep trying.

  • The reports I have heard from the parks since the new 4th FP rules were implemented are that 4th FP availability is worse than ever… so much so that you shouldn’t count on it and you should book your initial 3 FP based on the assumption that you will not get any more, and then if you do, it’s a bonus.

    Is this your opinion as well? Your article seems to be asserting that it *is* possible to get a 4th FP relatively easily. Do you have new data showing 4th FP availability throughout the day at each park? That would be extremely helpful.

    • by James Rosemergy on May 4, 2016, at 2:54 pm EDT

      The strategies here are more about ways to combine the fact that you no longer have to book 3 with the fact that you can book with your phone in other parks to make park hopping and using FP for the same attraction multiple times easier. With that in mind, it is more focused upon circumstances where you might want to reserve less than 3, than looking at FPs 4 and beyond. In answer to your question, though, that is still going to be a function of crowd size to some extent, and it will ultimately depend upon what it is you’re trying to reserve; my expectation is that headliners would go faster than before and lower tier attractions would be roughly the same or even a bit better than before. It’s still fairly early, though, and we’ll have to see how it plays out in the real world.

    • by Kristina Snowden on May 10, 2016, at 12:40 pm EDT

      This was not true for us AT ALL. In fact, we used rolling FastPasses throughout the day at AK and MK and it was wonderful. At MK, we stopped counting after FP 14 or so. As soon as we all scanned our bands, the app would be updated to show us all eligible for another FP and the times changed constantly so even though it might show no Jungle Cruise FP available around the time we were looking at, we would book something else and check back 15 minutes later and there would be a Jungle Cruise available starting right then. And when we were on the clock for Pirates and the ride went down, we were automatically given the Multiple Experience replacement FP which included Winnie the Pooh which we weren’t actually able to book at the time. It was an incredible night of non-stop, no waiting rides!

      • Kristina, just curious what date you were there and what crowd levels were like? It sounds great!

        • We did this past Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday evenings at MK. I think they were predicted around 6’s but Touring Plans now says Thursday, Friday and Saturday were 8 out of 10. Honestly, it didn’t feel that crowded to us. It was our first time using the app to schedule rolling FastPasses after the initial 3. We had no issues and learned some stuff. Unlimited seems to really mean that, the app updates quickly so you can look for your next FP right after scanning in for your current FP, the available times change constantly and the app doesn’t always show you the earliest time the first time you look. I thought it was fantastic and my kids were thrilled. I’m afraid it might not be so fun when more people start using the app but I’ll enjoy it for as long as it lasts.

  • Question about strategy. If doing a park hopping day between HS in the morning and AK in the afternoon/evening on a low crowd Tuesday in September (with a short mid day break at resort). Originally was going to do FP+ for AK, but re-thinking of doing it for faster touring at HS due to what we want to do/see there, and then chancing the opportunity for 4th FP(s) at AK that afternoon and evening. Would this be a good strategy due to what we want to do at each park?

    Each Park Must Do’s-
    HS:
    JTA, TSMM, ToT, Star Tours, Kylo Ren M&G, Chewie M&G, and possibly Olaf M&G and Buzz/Woody M&G if there’s time or crowds allow.
    AK: Night Safari, Dinosaur, FoLK, Triceraspin, Nemo Show, and EE (with 6yr old). Plan on doing Tusker House ADR with River Light seating for dinner.